Buret McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.

In the quiet moments of our lives, we can all sense that our hearts long for something.

We often don't know what that something is.

We seek an answer in our phones, and while they provide some sense of extension in fulfillment,

a feeling of magic, the use of technology also comes with significant cost and individual

development and interpersonal connection that we typically don't fully understand and

consider.

We can also say that, while we can find true human flourishing in a world in which so much

works against it.

His name is Andy Krauch, and he's the author of The Life we're Looking for.

Re-claiming relationship in a technological world.

Today on the show, we talk about the trade-offs you make when you seek magic without mastery.

Now we can understand our desires better, once we understand ourselves as heart, soul,

mind, and strength complexes.

We want to be loved and known.

We discuss the difference between interactions that are personal versus personalized, as

well as the difference between devices and instruments, and how to use your phone as the

latter instead of the former.

We enter conversation with why Andy thinks we need to redesign the architecture of our

relational lives and create something he calls households.

After, show us over, check out our show notes at a-wim.is slash crouch.

Andy Krauch, welcome to the show.

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