The Life Scientific: Lucy Carpenter
Discovery
BBC
4.3 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 11 May 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
Working on a remote tropical island in the Atlantic might sound like some sort of romantic idyll - but trying to conduct scientific research on a windy, isolated volanic outcrop is no picnic, as Lucy Carpenter can attest! Lucy is an atmopsheric chemist and a Professor at the University of York, whose work has helped to transform understanding of how oceans shape the air above them. She was one of the founding scientists behind the Cape Verde Atmospheric Observatory, established on São Vicente in 2006 and now a key global monitoring site. Measurements made there helped overturn a long-standing assumption: ozone loss is not solely a human-made problem. Lucy and her colleagues showed that gases released by natural marine processes can trigger chemical reactions that destroy ozone - demonstrating that the sea is not simply a passive backdrop to climate change but an active participant; affecting aerosols, clouds and ultimately the climate itself. More recently Lucy's expertise has taken her into the policy arena, co-chairing the scientific assessment panel for the Montreal Protocol: the international agreement designed to protect the ozone layer. In conversation with Professor Jim Al-Khalili, Lucy discusses her journey from sampling ocean air to turning the tide of global environmental policy - and explains why her passion for duathlons could arguably be seen as an easier pastime than scientific research.
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| 0:30.6 | Hello, we begin today in the Mid-Atlantic, on the island of Sao Vicente in Cape Verde, |
| 0:37.2 | a place of trade winds and lava fields where the air |
| 0:40.5 | blowing inland has spent days travelling over open ocean, clean air, the kind that atmospheric chemists |
| 0:46.9 | dream of. atmospheric chemists such as Lucy Carpenter, professor at the University of York, |
| 0:52.3 | who studies how chemical interactions impact our climate. |
| 0:56.2 | Lucy was one of the founding scientists behind the Cape Verde Atmospheric Observatory, |
| 1:00.6 | established on Savacente in 2006. It was measurements at this site that paved the way for a |
| 1:06.7 | significant revelation that ozone loss is not only a human-made problem. The chemistry of the sea |
| 1:13.2 | has an impact as well. She discovered that for various reasons, the ocean actively changes the |
| 1:18.4 | chemistry of the air above it, and in doing so can influence ozone, methane, aerosols, clouds, |
| 1:24.1 | and ultimately the climate itself. Today, the Cape Verde Observatory has become one of the |
| 1:29.3 | world's most important atmospheric study sites, while Lucy's career has taken her from that remote island |
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