The Life Scientific: Julia Simner
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🗓️ 23 February 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
Imagine if you were listening to an opera or a Taylor Swift concert, and as the lights in the auditorium dimmed, the music was accompanied by a rainbow of colours only you could see. Perhaps while listening to your friends talking, you simultaneously experience a smorgasbord of tastes, with different words evoking different flavours, maybe a delicious ice cream, or something as disgusting as ear wax... This merging of the senses is known as synaesthesia, and it’s the rich research world of neuropsychologist Professor Julia Simner. Julia runs the Multisense lab at the University of Sussex and has pioneered research into understanding how special brains process our sensory world in special ways. In the studio she tests Jim to see if he might be a synaesthete or have aphantasia, which is the inability to view images in the mind’s eye. The results are surprising. Julia’s discovered links to autism, and to different personality types, as well as a number of previously unknown sensory differences. She describes her career and her life as a series of swerves, or sliding door moments, that have led her to study the subject and the people she’s passionate about. She says that the more she looks for these unusual traits in us the more she finds.
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| 0:38.4 | Hello, imagine you're listening to a Mozart opera, or if you prefer a Taylor Swift song, |
| 0:44.0 | and the music is accompanied by a rainbow of colours only you can see. Perhaps while listening to |
| 0:50.4 | this sentence, you're experiencing a smorgasbord of tastes with different words |
| 0:55.4 | evoking different flavours, maybe a delicious ice cream, or something as disgusting as earwax. |
| 1:01.5 | This merging of the senses is known as synesthesia, and it's the rich research world of my guest |
| 1:07.9 | today, neuropsychologist Julia Simner. Julia runs the multi-sense lab at the University |
| 1:12.9 | of Sussex and over the last 20 years, she's pioneered research into understanding how special brains |
| 1:19.0 | process our sensory world in special ways. She's discovered links to autism and to different |
| 1:24.9 | personality types, as well as a number of previously unknown sensory |
| 1:28.5 | differences. Julia describes her career in her life as a series of swerves or sliding door |
| 1:34.0 | moments that have led her to study the subject and the people she's passionate about. She says |
| 1:39.1 | that the more she looks for these unusual traits in us, the more she finds, and that maybe one day we'll all be able |
| 1:45.3 | to map our own sensory differences. Professor Julia Simner, or Jules, as you prefer to be called, |
| 1:51.1 | welcome to the Life Scientific. Hi, Jim, thank you so much. It's really lovely to be here. I bet a lot of |
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