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Hello. Charles Godfrey has described himself as a natural historian in the sense of studying natural

history who throughout his career has followed his nose and only accidentally he says ended up as

a senior academic now the professor of population biology

at Oxford University and director of the Oxford Martin School he is

involved in all sorts of groundbreaking projects exploring everything from the impact of AI to the future of organ

printing.

From Childhood Adventures in the South Downs to a scholarly obsession with the strange and gruesome

world of parasitic wasps.

Charles has maintained his fascination with the complex web of insect interactions and

behaviors.

But a knack for weaving together diverse scientific strands shines through too,

whether helping to uncover a malaria eradicating gene using mathematical modeling

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