Hey everybody is Bill Courtney with an Army and Normal folks and we continue now with our

special series Shop Talk. This is episode number five of Shop Talk and today I'm going to tell you a story that was one of

the most valuable lessons to me in business but I think the lesson transcends business to just about everything.

And it's summed up in this way.

You'll never get anything that you don't ask for.

We'll get deep into that right after these brief messages

from our generous sponsors.

My name is Johnny Be Good and I'm the host of the new podcast Creating a

con, the story of bit con. Over this nine-part series I'll explore the life and

crimes of my best friend Ray Chirpani.

I always wanted to be a criminal.

If someone's like, oh, what's your best way of making money?

I might go, we should start some sort of scheme.

You see, Ray has this unique ability

to find loopholes and exploit them.

They collected $30 million.

There were headlines about it.

His company, Centratech,

was one of the hottest

crypto startups in 2017.

It was going to change the world, until it didn't.

I came into my office, opened my email,

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