Hey everyone. Welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-hosts of the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, Rachel Campo Stuffy.

Sean, it's great to be back at the kitchen table.

And those who follow our podcast regularly know we talk a lot about classical education.

We talk a lot about the kind of journey that we've taken as a family, sort of going from mediocre, luwarm milk toast catholic schools to find

getting them to Chicago to the University of Wisconsin Madison but also the the the

kids in the elementary school going through milk toast Catholic schools all the way

in finding a school that we'd like and then then the journey, as you said, Sean, into the universities.

And so we did Chicago, University of Chicago, we tried University of Wisconsin-Madison.

We don't like that.

And then we finally, on the third one, got it right.

We got our daughter into the University of Dallas, which is a Catholic

classical university. And we thought, as much as we try and describe it and explain why we like it,

we thought it would be really useful to bring in the president of the university to kind of

give our listeners a deeper understanding of why a classical school matters and what kind of difference

it would make in your child's education and development and flourishing. And so with no further ado,

we have Dr. Sanford. He is Dr. Jonathan Sanford. He is the president of the University of Dallas.

Dr. Stanford, welcome. Thank you.

Thanks so much for having me.

It's great to have two of our UD parents here with us.

Not Parent Weekend, but let's make it a weekend here.

It's Parent Weekend at the kitchen table with Dr. Sanford.

Listen, we appreciate it coming on the podcast. You know,

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