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🗓️ 15 April 2023
⏱️ 26 minutes
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0:00.0 | This is Planet Money from NPR. |
0:06.1 | For the last year or two, we have been in a certain universe, a universe of high inflation |
0:12.0 | and higher interest rates than we're used to. |
0:14.4 | The economy has been overheated, as they say, which is not great. |
0:18.7 | But not too long ago, just before the pandemic, we had the opposite problem. |
0:23.2 | We were in a universe of abnormally low inflation and abnormally low interest rates. |
0:29.0 | The economy was underheated, we'll say, which is also not great. |
0:32.8 | Some inflation is good. |
0:34.4 | Really, there's a sweet spot. |
0:36.2 | Yeah, low inflation and low interest rates are signs that something is wrong with the economy. |
0:41.6 | And for years, it seemed like nothing we did could get us out of the low interest rate, |
0:47.9 | low inflation rate, not just in the US, but around the world. |
0:51.0 | In Germany, in Italy, the UK, Japan, and economists were saying, it looks like we're |
0:57.4 | going to stay in this universe for a long time. |
1:01.2 | Obviously, we have now left that universe. |
1:03.8 | Oh, yeah, big time. |
1:04.8 | But one leading economist is saying, yeah, but we'll likely return to that old universe |
1:10.1 | of low inflation and low interest rates. |
1:12.5 | Once things settle down, another leading economist though is like, I'm not so sure. |
1:18.7 | Larry Summers, you're saying, no, we're going to be in a whole different universe now. |
1:26.0 | I'm saying, at least there's a substantial chance of that. |
1:28.6 | Yes. |
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