Hey y'all from NPR, I'm Sam Sanders. It's been a minute.

Listeners, today we are giving you a very special bonus episode.

Gonna revisit a conversation I had a while back with the two women who made the award-winning

documentary all about the life of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

And as I'm sure you've noticed the conversation after Ginsburg's death,

it moved quickly from honoring her life to speculating about what comes next and who might

replace her on the Supreme Court. Listeners, I am not a good speculator. So in this episode we are

just gonna take some time to look back at RBG's life and legacy. So I talked with documentary

filmmakers Betsy West and Julie Cohen in 2018 about their film called Simply RBG. That movie

covers a lot of ground from Ruth Bader Ginsburg's days as one of the first female students at Harvard

Law School to working on women's rights cases with the ACLU back in the 70s to arguing cases in

front of the Supreme Court, a whopping six times. Female citizens of Louisiana are denied equal

protection by the total losses of their peers from the jury. I thought they knew theory was that

there's very little difference between men and women. So why wouldn't the men jury be there?

Well I'm not aware of that new theory. And as a special treat in this episode listeners,

you'll also hear Nina Totenberg, in PR's own Legal Affairs correspondent and friend of RBG.

The part that is so sweet about this movie and so different about it is that they so perfectly

captured her relationship with her late husband who died in 2010 I think. And it's a love story.

All right without further ado, in honor of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her work and her legacy,

here is my chat from 2018 with Julie Betsy and Nina. Enjoy.

Why this movie now? I mean, Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been in the public consciousness now for

decades. Why now? And what made you want to do it now? Well, you know, Justice Ginsburg starting in

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