The Lie, the Brain, and the Way We Heal with Dr. Curt Thompson
The Jennie Allen Podcast
Jennie Allen
4.9 • 6.6K Ratings
🗓️ 12 March 2026
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Jennie sits down with her longtime friend, mentor, and counselor Dr. Curt Thompson for a deep conversation about lies, healing, shame, neuroplasticity, and the power of community.
Together, they explore why the lies we believe about ourselves can feel so normal that we stop noticing them, how those lies get embedded in us over time, and why freedom takes more than just hearing the truth once. This conversation is a powerful reminder that healing is not just about information - it is about practice, remembrance, and being deeply known by safe people.
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| 0:00.0 | The groups that were part of by whom we're being very deeply known, those communities provide a mass effect from my mind, |
| 0:06.4 | such that I'm not just by myself having to leave or be in a different system, |
| 0:12.8 | but the new system that I'm forming is in itself helping me make that move. |
| 0:17.6 | So I don't just choose to not believe the lie. We help me choose not to believe the |
| 0:23.4 | law. |
| 0:27.6 | Well, guys, you will be blessed today because with us is my longtime friend and mentor and paid therapist. |
| 0:43.9 | Sometimes. |
| 0:46.2 | Sometimes not. |
| 0:47.5 | Today will be one of those times I'm not paying you. |
| 0:50.1 | Dr. Kurt Thompson is with us. |
| 0:53.0 | And it will bless all of you. |
| 0:55.6 | It has healed, I mean, so much more joy in my life, so much more peace, so much more |
| 1:00.4 | freedom in my life since I met you. |
| 1:03.6 | And I'm just really grateful. |
| 1:05.9 | I mean, really? |
| 1:06.6 | Me too. |
| 1:07.2 | Oh, yeah. |
| 1:08.0 | I mean, like, yeah, I mean, yeah. |
| 1:10.3 | I mean, when I was about 40 years old, which is now |
| 1:14.7 | a fair bit in my rearview mirror, I had the thought to myself, and I just, I have, I just |
| 1:22.9 | a wealth, not like tons and tons and tons, but I had a core, I have a core group of |
| 1:29.5 | really good friends. And it was just hard, I was hard pressed to imagine that I would meet new, |
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