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The Plot Thickens

The Legend

The Plot Thickens

TCM Podcasts

Tv & Film, Film History

4.84.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2024

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

After being removed from a film and ruining his friendship with Henry Fonda, John Ford begins to openly challenge his previous work. He deconstructs the Western and, for the first time, makes films specifically about Indians and women. But his power in Hollywood dwindles, and he soon finds himself out of work, a living legend living off his savings. As Ford enters his 70s, his movies are rediscovered and he is showered with honors and accolades, even as he denies his own artistry every chance he gets. Though he does accept one major award... from none other than the President of the United States. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Is that any difference directing men and women?

0:04.0

No.

0:05.0

Why did you direct so many men and so few women?

0:09.0

I will, just...

0:11.0

Subject matter.

0:12.0

Just, just happened.

0:14.0

Yeah.

0:15.0

There's always been women in my picture.

0:17.0

I don't you going to say there's always been women in your life,

0:21.0

but not in your pictures, but not in your pages.

0:23.0

But you can't say that.

0:27.0

Catherine and John Ford were close,

0:30.0

but they argued about all kinds of things, including politics.

0:35.0

I would not think that I could tell you even after all these years what his political

0:40.8

philosophy is.

0:43.0

Ford, meanwhile, thought his politics made perfect sense.

0:47.9

I'm a racist Democrat, family influence. I've never voted until the last election. I go to Barry Goldwater.

1:01.0

Now that I can't understand.

1:03.0

Well, he's a close personal friend.

1:05.0

Oh.

1:06.0

I vote for Dick Nixon, he's a close personal friend.

1:09.0

Well, then this is insane, you see.

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