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with Stephen Bradford.

Steve Abate. Yo Bradford, Anderson. Good answer. The myth. The jackal. Oh, okay. I know I'm more of a jackal unless I've

Legend. Well, it takes a little more time than you'll then you'll hit legend status. Do you have to be how old you have to be to be

Legend? I don't know. That's a good question. Is it is it is it age or is it how long you've been at a certain job?

Hmm, that's a good question. Well, let's say let's think about this. Let's think about okay. Let's translate it to music. Okay. Okay. So who's a music legend?

Oh, gosh, dude. Come on. Right. Anyone. Like could be country music. Like who's a country music country music legend?

George straight. Okay. So he's been and he's been doing it for 40 years 30 40 years. Yeah, 80s. Is Brad Paisley a legend?

I would say he's on the cusp, but I don't know. Right on the cusp. Right. So in rock or pop like like George Jones who you don't know he was a legend. Right. Right.

Like Bob Johnny Cash. Johnny Cash. Bano is a legend, right? Is Bano a legend? In rock. I would say I would say what makes him a legend is his philanthropy.

Probably takes him to that to that status faster. Right. But someone like, okay.

Someone that's been working in the industry for 20 years. Like Justin Bieber has probably been 15 to 20 years in the industry. Maybe.

Yeah, I don't think he's old enough to be a legend. Right. So that's what I'm saying. It's like, um, I think it because I think also it has to be.

Interesting conversation though. They have to be a little separated from the current. Sure. Because if they're still current and they're still like,

then it's almost because there's a there's a hint of.

You've been doing this so long that there are other people that are doing it.

Like more on the forefront than you are. But yeah, the respect for you is profound.

Correct. And I think there's a lot of factors, right? Because we didn't we didn't know where you were going to talk about this. So.

No, we sure didn't get on the talk. But Justin Bieber did pave the way.

Like he was he was a unique in the sense that he was found on YouTube. And you know, here he is.

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