The Legal Case For And Against Subway Choker Daniel Penny
Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast
WNYC Studios
4.4 • 675 Ratings
🗓️ 8 May 2023
⏱️ 22 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | from WNYC studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday, May 8th. |
| 0:14.6 | Well, it was one week ago today that Jordan Neely was choked to death on that F train in Manhattan, |
| 0:20.7 | and the Manhattan |
| 0:21.4 | DA is apparently still deciding if the choker will be charged. We now know the identity of the |
| 0:27.7 | choker, 24-year-old former Marine Daniel Penny, originally from West Islip on the south shore of |
| 0:33.1 | Long Island. There were developments over the weekend, including protests, and pieces of evidence emerging, |
| 0:39.5 | and Mr. Penny hiring as a defense lawyer, who else but the Republican who ran against Alvin Bragg |
| 0:46.0 | for Manhattan DA, the lawyer's name is Thomas Kenneth or Kniff. The lawyer released a statement |
| 0:52.0 | over the weekend that said Daniel never intended to harm Mr. Neely |
| 0:55.7 | and could not have foreseen his untimely death. |
| 1:00.0 | But could he have? |
| 1:01.6 | Bystander video emerged over the weekend of someone warning Penny that he was killing Neely. |
| 1:07.0 | The person said, that's one hell of a chokehold. |
| 1:09.7 | You're going to kill him. ABC News reports, |
| 1:13.3 | D.A. Bragg has interviewed six people, but wants to interview four more. The statement from |
| 1:18.7 | Penny's lawyer also says, when Mr. Neely began aggressively threatening Daniel Penny and the other |
| 1:24.1 | passengers, Daniel, with the help of others, acted to protect themselves |
| 1:28.4 | until help arrived. So one of the things at stake legally is what the standard will be going |
| 1:35.2 | forward on the subways and elsewhere for physically attacking a person in a mental health |
| 1:40.1 | crisis when they are making you scared by yelling, but not specifically threatening to hurt you |
| 1:46.2 | and not physically attacking anyone themselves. Remember, the witness reports in the press say |
| 1:51.8 | Mr. Neely was apparently in a mental health crisis that had him yelling that he was hungry |
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