The Legacy of Steve Jobs

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

Society & Culture

4.2 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 December 2022

⏱️ 73 minutes

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We're sharing Kara’s September 2022 conversation with Tim Cook, Sir Jony Ive and Laurene Powell Jobs on the life and legacy of Steve Jobs. It’s one of Kara’s favorite conversations of the year, and one in which she cried (though she denies it). Kara handpicked this trio to join her for her final Code interview. Cook, the CEO of Apple, worked with Jobs for decades and succeeded him as CEO. Ive, now co-founder of the creative collective LoveFrom, collaborated with Jobs on the design many of Apple’s game-changing products, like the iPod and the iPhone. And Powell Jobs, the founder and president of Emerson Collective, was married to Jobs for 20 years. In this wide-ranging conversation, they cover design, ethics and, of course, Kara’s favorite topic: death. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.0	We're off today at being a holiday and all, but we didn't want to leave you empty handed.
0:33.0	So here's one of my favorite conversations I've had all year.
0:37.0	It's a discussion about the legacy of Steve Jobs.
0:40.0	It was taped at the code conference in September with Tim Cook, Johnny Ive, and Lorraine Powell Jobs.
0:46.0	It's a wide-ranging conversation that covered design ethics and of course my favorite topic, death.
0:51.0	It was your last conversation of the event.
0:54.0	Yes, yes. You cried. You cried. You cried. You cried. I knew you'd say that. No, I didn't cry.
0:58.0	You cried. I became emotional slightly when they deny before you make the charts are usually guilty.
1:04.0	And I didn't cry. Okay. You guys can listen and find out yourselves.
1:08.0	No, you always have to have the last word. I didn't cry.
1:10.0	I might have the last word care, but you get the last year.
1:12.0	No, I don't. I didn't cry.
1:14.0	We'll hear that tear just bounce off.
1:16.0	There's no crying and podcasting, my friend. There's no crying and podcasting.
1:20.0	So, this is the last session. I thought it would be a good one to bring in the most valuable, the CEO of the most valuable company in the world.
1:31.0	And talk about the man who was there at the beginning of it, Steve Jobs, along with many others, of course, including Tim Cook, was there very early.
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