The Legacy of Nancy Pelosi with Biographer Susan Page
The Bill Press Pod
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🗓️ 27 December 2022
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
The most successful Speaker of the House since Sam Rayburn? The most successful Speaker of all time? Just some of the questions Bill asks USA TODAY Washington Bureau Chief and Pelosi biographer, Susan Page. Here is a link to the picture Susan and Bill talked about. More links: Susan’s book: Madam Speaker: Nancy Pelosi and the Lessons of Power. Molly Ball's Pelosi and John Lawrence's Arc of Power: Inside Nancy Pelosi's Speakership, 2005–2010. Our two earlier interviews with Susan Page and Molly Ball.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, good friends. I hope you're enjoying the holidays with your family and friends, as I am. |
| 0:13.2 | Well, as we near the end of 2022, we are witnessing a key moment of history in the Congress, |
| 0:19.4 | among Democrats, the passing of the courts of leadership |
| 0:22.2 | to a new generation and the end of the amazing exercise of leadership by Nancy Pelosi. Without doubt, |
| 0:30.5 | Nancy Pelosi is the most effective and most successful Speaker of the House and Sam Rayburn. |
| 0:35.5 | And in my judgment, given how many more serious issues |
| 0:39.3 | she had to deal with, the most effective speaker ever, period. 16 years, four presidents, |
| 0:47.6 | two impeachments, one pandemic, and one insurrection later, we wanted to look back today at Nancy Pelosi's legacy |
| 0:55.7 | before she actually hands over the baton. |
| 0:59.6 | In the last year, there have been three terrific books published about Nancy. |
| 1:04.1 | One, Ark of Power by former Pelosi Chief of Staff John A. Lawrence. |
| 1:10.3 | Another, Pelosi by Time Magazine political correspondent Molly Ball, |
| 1:15.7 | who spoke about the book here on the Bill Press pod. |
| 1:19.5 | And then Madam Speaker by USA Today Washington Bureau Chief Susan Page, |
| 1:25.8 | another previous guest on the podcast. And today, Susan Page comes back to |
| 1:31.3 | discuss one for the history books, the life and legacy of Nancy Pelosi. Susan Page, welcome back to |
| 1:39.8 | the Bill Press pod. It's good to talk to you again. Hey, Bill, it's great to be back with you. |
| 1:45.1 | Thank you. So last year, we had a chance to talk about your great new book when it came out. |
| 1:50.6 | Madam Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, and The Lessons of Power. Now that the speaker has announced that |
| 1:57.6 | she is stepping down at the end of the year, it's good of you to come back because we want to talk about, you know, the bigger picture and how Nancy Pelosi will be |
| 2:06.5 | remembered. So let me just start by asking you, in our lifetime, have we ever seen a speaker |
| 2:13.3 | of the house as effective as Nancy Pelosi? No. |
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