The Legacy Of Deftones, Plus: Are Music Critics Too Nice Now?
Indiecast
Amazon Music
4.6 • 621 Ratings
🗓️ 29 August 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
Steven and Ian begin with a quick Swift-cast about the pop singer's recent engagement (1:06), and then segue to a Sportscast segment about the potential dominance of the Philadelphia Eagles and the weird ineptitude of the Dallas Cowboys (5:07). After that, they discuss the recent album by Deftones, private music, and the group's current "critic's darling" status (12:38). Speaking of critics, the guys talk about a recent "state of music criticism" thinkpiece about whether music critics now are too nice (26:02). Then they do a "yay or nay" segment on Beach House (47:15).
In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the new album by emo band Hot Mulligan and Steven talks up the indie-R&B project Nourished By Time (52:14)
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| 0:00.0 | Indycast is presented by Uprox's Indie Mix tape. |
| 0:13.5 | Hello everyone and welcome to Indycast. |
| 0:15.4 | On this show we talk about the biggest indie news of the week, review albums, and we hash out trends. |
| 0:20.2 | In this episode, we talk about deaf tones, the state of music week, review albums, and we hash out trends. In this episode, we talk about |
| 0:21.3 | deaf tones, the state of music criticism, yet again, and yay or nay, Beach House. My name is |
| 0:27.8 | Stephen Hayden, and I'm joined by my friend and co-host. He's the English teacher, and I'm the |
| 0:32.2 | gym teacher. Ian Cohen. Ian, how are you? You did like a last minute, uh, presto changeo on the intro, and I find myself completely unprepared for it. |
| 0:41.4 | I'm just thinking about, like, the gym teacher I had who made people do push-ups on his desk. |
| 0:47.4 | He ended up getting kicked out of Plymouth White Marsh High School. |
| 0:52.1 | I don't want to say anything about this guy because I don't want to open up to a libel lawsuit. |
| 0:56.6 | Oh, man, do you think he's listening? |
| 0:59.2 | You think he's like, oh, yeah, my old student, he has an indie rock podcast. |
| 1:02.7 | Let's check this out. |
| 1:04.1 | What? |
| 1:04.6 | He's talking about me? |
| 1:06.2 | So, for those who don't know, I was making a jockey reference to the big news this week about |
| 1:13.9 | Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey, they're engaged and they announced it on social media with |
| 1:19.4 | the words, your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married. |
| 1:24.1 | And just immediately made me think about that part in Almost Famous, |
| 1:28.3 | like where Jason Lee looks at the sky and says, |
| 1:30.5 | is it that hard to make us look cool? |
| 1:33.0 | Yeah, because I don't know. |
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