Hello, everyone. You're listening to Family Talk, a radio broadcasting ministry of the James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Dr. James Dobson, and thank you for joining us for this program.

Welcome to Family Talk, the broadcast division of the Dr. James Dobson Family Institute.

I'm Gary Bauer, senior vice president of public policy here at the JDFI.

You know, as parents and grandparents, we have the incredible opportunity to leave behind a legacy for our children and grandchildren. And even in some cases, if we're

fortunate, our great-grandchildren. Now, look, when I say the word legacy, I'm sure a lot of

you are thinking, oh, this is going to be a radio program about what I should do with all my wealth.

And I don't have any wealth. So I'm going to move on. Don't touch that dial.

We're talking about legacy in a much deeper and, I think, much more important way.

It's the legacy of values and our Christian faith that matters the most when we're thinking about

future generations. Now, if you have followed Dr.

Dobson over the years, it wouldn't have taken you long to know that legacy for him is a really

big deal. It's of great importance. He even wrote his own book about this called Your Legacy the Greatest Gift.

But we have a couple of guests on the program today who are also leading the charge on legacy building.

They are David Green and Bill High. Now, I don't know, maybe you have heard the name David Green or about the Green family.

He is the founder and CEO of a struggling little chain of stores that is called Hobby Lobby,

but they're not struggling at all.

This is an incredible company.

It employs 50,000 people at over a thousand stores nationwide. I hope,

David, we can get you to talk about that a little bit. I believe, if I recollect correctly,

it all started with a loan. So it's an interesting story, for sure, an inspirational story.

David and his wife Barbara have three adult

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