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Making the Argument with Nick Freitas

The Left Vows Retaliation Against ICE

Making the Argument with Nick Freitas

Nick Freitas

News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Politics

4.4743 Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Democrats are vowing retaliation against ICE members, the DHS, the Pentagon, and anyone else who works for the administration and engages in what they call "illegal orders".

But what happens when they alone try to decide what's an illegal order?

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00:00:00 Intro

00:01:45 The Left Is Rapidly Becoming Violent

00:12:28 Democrats Are Threatening to Jail Trump Officials

00:16:38 Who Gets to Decide What an Illegal Order Is?

00:29:02 The Left Engaged In a Bureaucratic Insurrection

00:33:11 Why Democrat Appeals to the Constitution Now Fall Flat

00:37:36 The Left Has Already Decided What Should Happen

00:50:04 How The Right Should Respond

Transcript

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0:00.0

Well, ladies and gentlemen, the left is doing a lot of signaling right now on what they plan to do if they ever get back power. And surprise, surprise, they plan to use the government to reward their friends and punish their enemies. And who exactly are their enemies? Well, apparently it's anybody that follows orders from the Trump administration. And how do you distinguish between a lawful order and an unlawful order?

0:23.8

Well, once upon a time, it was a little bit clearer.

0:25.9

You looked at things like the UCMJ or Uniform Code of Military Justice if you were in the military.

0:30.8

But now apparently we're just going to leave it up to people like Eugene Vindman and Mark Kelly,

0:35.8

who once they get power, will just reinvent the law however they need to in order to punish people.

0:40.2

At least that's the concern.

0:42.7

But is it valid?

0:44.1

Is it valid or is this just all talk?

0:46.9

Well, today, what we're going to try to do is establish two things.

0:49.7

First of all, we're going to see what has the response been over the last several months with respect

0:55.7

to Democrat rhetoric around Trump's orders, ICE operations, Department of Homeland Security.

1:02.6

We're going to take a look at that.

1:04.0

And then we're going to take a look at what they've been saying recently.

1:07.1

And we're going to try to figure out what all does this mean if Democrats were to actually get enough power to pull it off.

1:14.9

Are they just talking or are they serious?

1:17.3

All of that and more coming up on this episode of making the argument.

1:20.1

I'm your host Nick Fratis back in the studio, all of us actually, back in the studio, my beautiful bride Tina, Queen of the Bees.

1:26.1

Hello, everyone.

1:27.0

And then of course we have our resident historian political prognosticator the oracle of virginia christian

1:32.1

hines who knew that uh democrats actually get to decide what's legal and illegal yeah yeah they're

1:39.2

just when they lose an election they're just going to go ahead and uh they're just going to go

1:42.2

and figure all that out for us um look this this goes back to my statement before and it's something that may be frustrating, but on some degree, it's I guess, admirable or not admirable. It's impressive. Maybe that's a better way to put it, is that when Democrats are not in charge, they act like they're in charge. And when they are in charge, they act like there will never be another election.

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