Well, hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the Learning Curve podcast.

I'm one of your co-host this week, Albert Chang.

And co-hosting with me is Alicia Searcy.

Alicia, what's up?

Albert, it is good to be with you, good to be back.

We've had some fun shows all as well here in the South-ish.

Yeah, things are good. How about with you? Yeah, yeah. Life goes on. Where to start. But I guess we're not doing the show to give all our life updates. So anyway, but yeah, speaking of the show, we've got a fun one today. we're going to have Guy Svan Hensbergen come and talk to us about Anthony Gowdy.

And I think listeners might be familiar. one today, we're going to have Guy Svan Hensbergen come and talk to us about Anthony Gowdy.

And I think listeners might be familiar, certainly with the Sagrada Familia, really that cathedral in

Barcelona that has been under construction for well over a century.

Have you ever seen it, Alicia?

Yes, maybe a year or two ago.

Hey, wow.

I actually had the frivol just seeing it.

Wow, I do the math now.

Almost 25 years ago.

And it is mind-boggling to me how, you know, when I went there 25 years ago, they

emphasized it's been under construction for a long time.

But, you know, to hear that

they're still working on it 25 years later, I got to say, that's mind boggling. We don't build

things like that these days, do we? Right. You talk about taking special care and taking your

time. Yeah, yeah. Well, there are virtues to talk about it with that. But before we get to that,

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