Welcome to the For the Gospel podcast where we provide sound doctrine for everyday people.

I'm your host, Kasti Hinn, and I want to welcome our listeners on Apple and Spotify,

and those of you watching this on our YouTube video podcast format.

On this episode, it is part four of this series we've been in on worship with Sovereign Grace Music.

I'm so grateful for Bob Cofflin, Devin Cofflin, and David Zimmer, and the wisdom they've poured out.

I am sure so many of you have been encouraged.

I have as well, even just getting to sit down,

ask them questions, and listen. My goal in this series is that it shapes ourselves as individual

worshipers, but also our churches. It's so important that our churches are biblical and balanced

and that our worship reflects what scripture models and

teaches on this episode now part four the leaders of our worship leadership is so important when it comes

to worship who should be on stage what should the character be of people who lead? If you play a guitar and

you're not a believer, you know, does it matter if you're talented? We just need you to play the sound

or does it. There is a culture today in the worship scene that I would describe as a mercenary culture.

You hire guns to play the lights out because they're talented. You don't know

their spiritual condition. You don't know if they're even a church member somewhere, let alone they

could be an atheist or just of another faith. There are so many stories of people who lead worship

or are on music teams who are living a homosexual lifestyle, who are living in total

sin. But because they're talented, it's like, well, let's just do this for a little while and then,

you know, but we won't make them like a worship pastor or make anything formal. We'll just have them

be a part or pay them as a contractor. This culture is pervasive and it's doing

damage in our churches. People don't even know who's on stage and how they're living. Is anyone

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