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T's and C's apply. We have only one option right now, and that is to build, to learn the lessons

of what went down and someone screaming from the roof about

what was about to happen who literally wrote the manifesto that predicted the way the Latino

vote was going to go. We've had him on the network before. We've tried to get people

to listen to him. He tried to get people to listen to him. He convinced some, but I don't think people fully heard the message, but he's been very vindicated, you know, perhaps, you know, the fact that he was so vindicated in the warnings, wish people would have heated his call earlier. It's Mike Madrid, of course, a consultant, political consultant, but the author of The Latino Century,

how America's largest minority is transforming democracy.

Mike, you've been saying this was going to happen.

You warned about it.

You said this would be the difference in the election.

And what we saw is basically the Biden lead amongst the Latinos in

2020 essentially just flipped and that plus a few other things were you know flipped in favor of

Trump that plus a few other things that was the the difference maker and where Trump found those

votes and how he was able to turn this election. So I want to get your initial thoughts.

Then let's talk about what we can do.

But let's start with just your initial thoughts.

Yeah, well, first, Ben, always, man, I love being with you, love what you build the show.

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