It's the Brian Laird show on WNC.

It's the Brian Laird Show on WNYC. Good morning everyone. Let me begin today by simply saying

it is so sad to watch this brutal conflict between two peoples who have each suffered so much throughout history and for roughly 150 years

now have been fighting each other over who gets more land and more rights when they live on

the land. The problem is there is no easy solution to the current conflict

that respects both sides aspirations and real historical grievances and

victimizations and provide security from more October 7th for Israelis.

Hamas openly says they look forward to more of those.

And for the Palestinians, no simple solution to immediate relief from the ongoing Israeli invasion

which has killed thousands in such a short time as Israel responds to the

Hamas attacks and torture and hostage-taking and ongoing threats and rejects cause for a ceasefire or even a pause

rejects even President Biden in that respect that's the urgent immediate life and death question.

But there's also no easy solution to the Palestinians

and the Israelis longer term desires,

each for a secure state of their own,

given the power of the settlement movement,

driving Palestinians off the land at greater rates now, that on one side,

and there's Hamas on the other, both the settlement movement and Hamas, rejecting a just and compassionate

to all two-state solution.

We could go through literally thousands of years of history in detail, tracing how we got to this point from times before Christ

to the Holocaust to the 56-year occupation at least some of that is really worth

doing but not in this opening I promise. We could go down the

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