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You're listening to the late night alternative. I'm Catherine Boyle and that is

Katie Park and we are talking about old pros. We're going to be speaking in a second to one of the women behind my new favorite podcast, the old pro podcast, or the oldest profession podcast to give it its proper name.

And I'll tweet you links and stuff as soon as we

finish because if you're into history at all if you're into you know the history of

humanity because it's not just about women it's largely about women but not just about

women and if you've wondered about you know the social morality behind sex work and the

changing attitudes towards it you know come on we're all curious this is the

podcast for you we'll speak to her in a second, but I just want to go quickly to Paul. Hi Paul.

Hello. Hi, Kup. Hi, Casey. What's going on, Paul?

Hi, I'm just following up regarding the conversations that you've been having really.

I saw something a while back about, it was about beer workers in like the old days, etc.

They used to kind of have pointed hats they used to keep a cat to keep the

uh... the sort of uh... rats away from the barrels and things and they were mostly really independent

women and they made loads of money. Yeah.

And so therefore basically sort of be attached the idea of them being witches and stuff like that

really fortune.

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