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Across the UK online and on D. A. B. The Wild Man of Late Night Radio, Ian Lee.

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Evening dear listener, it's Ian Lee and you are...

Catherine Boyle.

Welcome.

We just keep you, stay off the phones for a little bit because we've got a guest coming out.

We've talked about this show a lot the last couple of weeks because I'd heard

about it and I'd read bits and pieces about it and I thought well it can't be as bad as everyone's saying.

It can't be and and it was talking was of course about surviving R Kelly the show that we've watched online

It's going to be screened legitimately in the UK soon starting off February the 5th on the Crime and Investigation channel.

I think it should be on like BBC 1 or something.

To me it is the most, excuse me, I think it's the most important TV show of the last 15 years. It's an incredible story of abuse of

power, of abuse of fame, of abuse of women, of it's horrendous. And I do not understand why this is not the biggest story.

I was going to say showbiz story, you know what I mean? I don't understand why this is not the biggest story at the moment and it's an incredible

series. Some of you might find it triggering, it's very upsetting, it's very graphic in its

description, but I think it's really, really important.

I'm so thrilled, we've got the executive producer, we've got Tamra Simmons on the line from America.

Good evening, Tamra.

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