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I'm Martha McCallum.

It's great to have you with us.

And today I am joined by the author of The Last Ships from Hamburg,

business, rivalry, and the race to save Russia's Jews on the eve of World

War I. It is an absolutely fascinating period to look at, and it is written by the historian

and author Stephen Yujifusa. Did I say her name right?

You did, yes. Thank you so much, Martha.

It's great to have you with us. It's an interesting name, and I've heard you talk about it.

I always like to, on the untold story, start by having our guests talk a little bit about themselves. For people who don't know you, tell us a little bit about your background, Stephen. Well, sure. I have a Jewish mother and a Japanese American father, both sort of a byproduct of two

immigrant stories. And I grew up outside of New York City. I've always been fascinated

with ships in the sea. And in many ways this story was a coming home for me. It was a research

into my own mother's family's roots. and also my grandmother, who was the daughter

of Jewish immigrants from Russia, she told me the story of the Titanic when I was around six

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