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The Prestige TV Podcast

‘The Last of Us’ S2, E4 Precap: ‘Take On Me’ and Jeffrey Wright’s Menace With Kate Herron

The Prestige TV Podcast

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Tv & Film

4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Jo and Rob check in with overall thoughts on the season so far (8:42), including Ellie and Dina branching out into the post-apocalyptic adult world (16:32), and the introduction of Jeffrey Wright’s character, Isaac (24:41). Then, director Kate Herron joins to discuss Episode 4 (34:47). **SPOILERS** in the air (1:03:37), with a discussion of Ellie’s differences: game vs. TV (1:14:15), and when will we get an expected story shift (1:18:56)? Email us! [email protected] Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of ‘The Prestige TV Podcast’ and so much more! Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Rob Mahoney Guest: Kate Herron Producers: Kai Grady and Donnie Beacham Jr. Additional Production Support: Justin Sayles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome back to the Prestige TV podcast feed. I'm Joida Robinson. I'm Rob Mahoney.

0:18.0

We're here today to talk to you about The Last of Us episode four, and we're very excited

0:22.4

because has been the case the last couple weeks?

0:25.8

We've got a really fun interview this week with director of the episode, Kate Heron.

0:31.1

I'm huge Kate Harron fan, Kate, who was the overarching creative director of season one of Loki, one of the best episodes

0:41.5

of television that Disney has been able to produce. And so Kate brought her extremely talented

0:47.8

eye to this episode of television. So we got to talk to her about that, about caterpillars and horses.

0:52.8

Oh, my. It's a great, it's a great time. So if you thought we didn't get the caterpillars and horses. Oh, my. It's a great, it's a great time. If you thought we

0:57.0

didn't get the caterpillar scoop, you're sadly mistaken. You went like deep on the caterpillar lore.

1:02.4

It's pretty great. What is one to do when presented with the caterpillar in center frame, Joe? It's

1:07.7

not even sneaking around. It's true. It's true. Okay. So as is always the case on

1:11.8

this feed, what we're doing with this particular episode is we're going to do a little discussion

1:16.4

about the episode, including some of your emails, and then we'll have the interview with Kate,

1:20.8

and then we'll have a spoiler section that's sort of like a look ahead. I think this week,

1:25.1

especially I want to look ahead at what's coming next week because it's a lot of big stuff coming. So that is the plan. Also, also, also we're on the feed.

1:35.0

Rob and I continue to scratch our heads and feel our feelings about your friends and neighbors.

1:39.4

So we'll be back doing more of that this week. And Jody and Charles are covering the rehearsal.

1:44.7

And once again,

1:48.9

we're getting all of your emails and I don't understand any of them. But it seems like you guys are really enjoying Jody and Charles and that's the best because they're the best. As do we. As does everybody.

1:53.2

We love them. Okay. So, um, but that's a good reminder that you can email us or Jody and Charles

1:59.7

or anyone who's podcasting on Prestige TV at Prestige TV at Spotify.com, but more pertinently for our purposes, Joe, you can email us about the last of us at this is your brain on shrooms at gmail.com. And please do. They've been coming in. People are feeling lots of things about this particular stage of the show.

2:19.3

I think a lot of really strong, powerful reactions given and understood with the subject matter that we're waiting into now.

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