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Hank Unplugged: Essential Christian Conversations

The Last Christians with Andreas Knapp

Hank Unplugged: Essential Christian Conversations

The Christian Research Institute

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

5.0810 Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2017

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

This week, Hank is joined on Hank Unplugged by Andreas Knapp, author of The Last Christians: Stories of Persecution, Flight and Resilience in the Middle East. Andreas Knapp left a position as head of Freiburg Seminary to live and work among the poor as a member of the Little Brothers of the Gospel and ministers to prisoners and refugees. His latest book, The Last Christians, recounts the stories of refugees in his neighborhood and of displaced people in camps in Kurdistan, northern Iraq. This is a powerful conversation that you won’t want to miss.

Topics discussed include: Knapp explains what the Little Brothers of the Gospel society is (3:00); why Knapp left his post as the head of a seminary to live on the margins of society amongst the poor (5:30); Germany’s transition away from Christianity and the need for Christians to stop fighting one another and to unite around the essentials (11:00); how Western Christianity often neglects to understand Eastern Christianity (16:30); the strength of witness when we live our lives like Christ (20:00); the Christian refugees in Germany that inspired Knapp and brought him to the Middle East (26:30); why Knapp titled his book The Last Christians (30:30); the political roots of Islam preclude true democratic development in Islamic countries (35:00); the danger of placing ideology above common humanity (45:30); the use of the fourteenth letter of the Arabic alphabet as a sign of solidarity with Christians suffering persecution (49:00); the problem of Islamic migration without assimilation in the West (51:00); the two competing movements in Turkey today (57:30); the difference between martyrdom in Christianity and Islam (1:01:00); why Knapp wrote The Last Christians (1:05:00).

Transcript

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This is the podcast that takes me out of the studio into the study.

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And I interview some of the most interesting and enlightening people on the planet.

1:06.4

And today is no exception.

1:08.7

I have an opportunity to interview Andreas Knnapp. And he wrote a book called

1:15.0

The Last Christians, Stories of Persecution, Flight and Resilience in the Middle East. I feel we

1:23.2

have a little in common in that we're both Scandinavian. I was born in Holland. Andreas is German.

1:31.2

And we both wrote about Islam, but his book is a first-hand account that came about in a very,

1:41.5

very unusual way. And I want to talk about that in just a few moments. But

1:46.6

what's very interesting to me about Andreas is that he was the head of a seminary, and he has

1:53.3

chosen to live in a different way today. He is a monastic member of the Little Brothers of the Gospel. This is a group that

2:04.3

consciously seeks to live at the margins of society. And I look at some of his poetry. He is a poet as

2:12.7

well as a scholastic, and I think of the phrases, the faces of the people are the icons we venerate,

2:21.1

and in the countenances marked by suffering, we see the crucified one.

2:27.4

Or a couple of other phrases from a poem, no longer harboring illusions of greatness.

2:35.1

You humble yourself as human.

2:38.3

Only God is great.

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Adoration now belongs to him alone.

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