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Pablo Torre Finds Out

The Last Bromance: How Wrestling Corrupted the NBA Finals (PTFO Vault)

Pablo Torre Finds Out

Pablo Torre

News, Government, Sports, Sports News

4.72.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Did Dennis Rodman and Karl Malone blow the 1998 NBA Finals by promoting their pro-wrestling match... on the court?! Should there be an asterisk?! Is it time for Michael Jordan to relinquish the throne?! Correspondent Neil Punsalan enters a sports marketing wormhole to present Pablo with a box full of evidence, grill eyewitnesses and put to rest — once and for all — if The Mailman always rings twice.


(This episode originally aired June 6, 2025.)


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0:00.0

Hello, it's me, Pablo.

0:02.8

So we've done, doing the math, 327 episodes of Pablo Torre finds out since we launched in September, 2023.

0:12.1

And it is the end of 2025.

0:14.8

And I could not be prouder of our tiny little and extremely overworked newsroom that has created this

0:24.1

bizarre sports news magazine show that is television but also obviously an audio first podcast

0:31.7

because we've punched above our weight i think especially this year but the stuff that we did before, the previous, you know, hundreds of episodes,

0:41.4

we have some favorites that we are now concerned that you maybe have not heard yet,

0:46.5

or maybe don't realize, or even better, when you listen to it a second time.

0:50.7

And so during the holiday break, we're bringing you our favorites from the PTFO Vault.

0:55.5

And we also have a newsletter, by the way, www.pablo.com, where I'll be doing some stuff over the

1:00.6

holiday break, especially. Please subscribe and support our approach to independent sports

1:04.7

journalism. But most of all, thank you. Thank you for making this show, not just a weird

1:10.3

experiment, but a community of people who support the kind of mission that we're on.

1:15.4

To hold to account extraordinarily rich and powerful people while also taste testing, you know, athlete branded weed.

1:23.4

We contain multitudes, as does our vault. Please enjoy.

1:27.7

Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out.

1:29.8

I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is.

1:34.3

We can do a double team, triple team, but the NWO is the new team of the future.

1:41.2

Sweet.

1:45.5

Right after this ad.

1:49.3

We've had many strange people on this show.

1:55.0

We've had an 86-year-old grandpa.

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