And we are back with an all new episode of Keep It. I'm Iron Madison III.

I'm Louis Prattell, the first.

And we are delighted to be joined by Saeed Jones this week.

Hello, my queens. Hi. I feel like this is a long time coming. How is this your first time here?

You know, you know, I both felt inevitable and when that's the case, I tend not to rush.

But there you go. Mm-hmm. Yes, the opposite of Paul.

At the moment arrives. Okay. No rush.

I get around to it. I know where to find me.

God, I love rush, rush. Paul Abdul's Ballad career underrated, guys.

Stop it. We'll see on the blowing kisses and the wind. Love it. Yeah.

I mean, she is thinking off key on the record. On the record.

I think about that Whitney Houston moment once a day.

But Louis, you will though. Someone reminded me to the other day that it was a,

what did Madonna say about her famously?

There was a Madonna dress. Paul Abdul. Yes.

It was like, Madonna and Whitney like seem to both just like hate this woman.

Well, what I actually remember vividly is Madonna dragging of all people,

Mariah Carey in the mid 90s and a long interview,

talking about like, well, she's putting this out and I'm putting all this other stuff out.

It was unusually pressed given that they aren't like a Venn diagram overlap in many ways.

But, um, but of course, Paul Abdul was so everywhere.

I mean, just a phenomenon that I can hardly imagine Madonna not commenting on her.

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