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This is the Politics and More podcast.

I'm David Remnick, and I'm here today with my colleague Gia Tolentino.

Hi, David. So I recently talked to a young woman who I'm going to call Jane.

I guess you could say I was the golden child. So she would always talk so bad about my sister saying,

oh, she got pregnant so young, she doesn't know how to take care of it, this and that. And then she'll turn around and tell all her friends, oh, my other daughter, she's so amazing,

she has AP classes, she's a star student, so much and so on.

So I knew it would be so hard for me to come up to my mom and kind of just drop that bombshell

and tell her, hey, I'm pregnant.

Jane is from Texas, which is where I grew up. And in the 90s in Texas, as with now, sex ed is not

mandatory in school. And when it is taught, state law requires that abstinence be stressed as the preferred

method of birth control, and we all know how well that works. I remember growing up, abortion

was talked about unequivocally as murder. We did want a kid, but then again, we just couldn't afford it.

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