Hello and welcome back to another episode of the Estée La La La Land Show.

This is sadly our last episode for a while, but it is a good one.

That's why I saved it for last.

It's with my great friend Freya, who is an amazing ceramicist.

She is a beautiful mind, as you will hear very, very shortly.

And I can't wait for you to hear this conversation. She is amazing.

Hi, Freya. Hi, Estay. We're friends. We are friends. Just about. Just about. I'm so glad that we're

friends because I really think you, I've described you as a magic person before.

And I just really think that you, I don't know, you just have a little sprinkling of magical

dust all around you at all time. So. And so do you. So do you. And so does everyone, to be honest, if they only fucking

realized it. Am I allowed to swear? Should we cut out and swearing? That's perfectly fine. And

just you saying that just goes to show already that, you know, you are just a magical person.

So anyway, let's just get started with a little bit about who you are and how you got started with pottery.

I want to hear the story from beginning to end.

Okay, cool.

Beginning to now.

To begin with, before I was even born, I've got a father who was a sculptor.

He traveled to Zimbabwe. did lots of stone carving he came back

he started to work with clay in different materials he found that his favorite material to work with it

as a sculptor was clay because of its versatility and the tuck the feel of it and how it makes you feel when you work with it.

So I've had a dad that adopted clay as his practice and it got him, he submerged into the world of ceramics

and he had really supportive teachers at university that inspired him to take this on.

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