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So today, I don't even know how, oh, I don't even know how we got on this. I don't know, Carl's back and somehow, Carl.

Well, Carl, Tony Katz's producer, had mentioned he just got back from Michigan right and he was at a place in

northern Michigan where he took the ferry across to Wisconsin you started

singing the Christeberg song that's right I told him I asked I said did were you singing don't pay the

fairy man right and that led to Christa Berg's the lady in red song. So

Christa Berg was I mean a somewhat obscure artist from the 1980s who had a mega hit in Lady in Red.

And most people know him from that one song.

But he had a second top 40 hit, I think it's called Don't pay the fairy man yeah and so then we

started talking about or I started talking and generally when I say we I just like

talk to myself and then Kevin nods along and play kates and Casey just stares at me

wide I'd like what happened to you in your childhood that these are the things

that go on in your head. Yeah. And my point with the lady in red this was this

massive hit you were in high school in the

1980s I'm not trying to date you but in the 80s you are a young person in the

social sphere I feel like that song came out in 1983? 86. 86. I was

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