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This Jungian Life Podcast

The Labyrinth: Soul’s Winding Journey

This Jungian Life Podcast

Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

The labyrinth is a powerful metaphor for psychological development and the path of individuation.


This week Jungian analysts Lisa Marchiano and Deborah Stewart consider how twists and turns in the path of life (especially in early adulthood), ask us to confront uncertainty, anxiety, and the unknown.


Ego may crave a straight, well-planned path, but life inevitably offers something else: a fiendishly difficult labyrinth. If we want to get the most out of the journey, we’ve no choice other than to give it all we’ve got.


Through the story of Theseus and the Minotaur, we reflect on the necessity of facing up to our darkness. Ariadne’s thread, which allows Theseus to return after slaying the beast, shows us the vital role of connection in helping us find our way back.


We also explore the story of Abhimanyu from the Mahabharata. Abhimanyu’s mother gives him some knowledge of the labyrinth, but doesn’t tell him the way out, leading to tragedy. If we’re going to crack the code and exit the labyrinth, we’ll require a soulful attitude towards life, and the right psycho-spiritual teachings.


Finally, we turn to the contemplative labyrinth. This is not a place to escape from, but a path toward the center. Here, the journey becomes one of surrender, reflection, and gradual movement toward wholeness.


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0:00.0

It's exactly what a labyrinth or even a corn maze should do as practice in finding a new attitude, practice in finding a new orientation, practice in letting go of ego, that we will have gone to a center in ourselves as we go to the center of the labyrinth.

0:24.6

Welcome to this Jungian life.

0:27.1

Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart and Joseph Lee,

0:32.6

invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important

0:39.4

issues of the day.

0:42.6

I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia.

0:46.4

I'm Joseph Lee, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

0:51.3

I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst, on Cape Cod.

1:05.9

Today, Lisa and I are here to explore the deep, dark pathways known as labyrinths.

1:18.6

And they have been famous in mythology as a kind of a darkness or circular pathway. quite a bit of puzzlement of from time immemorial.

1:34.4

Basically, there are kind of two kinds of labyrinth. This is an archetypal structure,

1:40.7

one of which has to do with going down into the underworld and making a descent,

1:48.1

and the other which is famously present in the Cathedral of Chartre,

1:54.4

has to do with an ascent and making a spiritual journey.

2:00.2

So let's talk about labyrinths as a metaphor for human experience, a map of life, and how labyrinths are

2:11.3

different from mazes.

2:14.4

And I want to say that this was one of the many topics that we've done recently that was suggested by you, our listeners.

2:22.4

If you have a topic that you'd like us to cover, you can feel free to submit that any time.

2:29.0

Just go to our website, this union life.com, and there's a place on the top for podcast. You could drop it down and

2:36.9

there's a form that you can fill out to suggest topics. And we take those seriously. So we love to

2:44.5

hear your thoughts about what we should talk about. And I have to say that I have loved exploring this as a topic.

2:55.6

So I want to dive in with the famous story that I think everybody has heard of, which is

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