The Labour Party – Part Three – One Battle After Another
Origin Story
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🗓️ 19 November 2025
⏱️ 92 minutes
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| 0:28.6 | Hello. Hello, welcome to origin story. |
| 0:42.8 | In each episode, we take an idea, figure, or event from history, we explain its origins, |
| 0:47.3 | and we talk about how it influences political discourse today. |
| 0:50.4 | I'm Doreen Linsky, author of the Ministry of Truth, and Everything Was Go. |
| 0:53.7 | And my name is Ian Dunt. I am a columnist with the eye newspaper and the author of the striking 13 |
| 0:58.1 | newsletter. So you join us for the third and final part of the story of the British Labour Party. |
| 1:04.9 | We did not leave them on a high. The 1979 election, another existential crisis for Labor, of which there have been many, |
| 1:14.5 | and I'll probably be living through one right now. Membership immediately craters in one year |
| 1:20.3 | from 660,000 to 348,000. It's not that thing where people like, let's rally around the defeated |
| 1:26.7 | party. It's like, oh, fuck this then. It has never got back to where it was in 1979. So it's a similar problem to what they had in the 1950s where they seem out of touch with the aspirational mood that Thatcher didn't create. It was already building up. You can see all this evidence. This story, Andy Beckett points out, you know, it was all over the place in the late 70s. And now it can't deliver |
| 1:48.4 | redistribution through growth, that Keynesian bargain. So it doesn't have a really strong |
| 1:52.9 | economic argument against Thatcherism. And in fact, Dennis Healy, who we talked about, |
| 1:58.3 | the outgoing chancellor, he noticed that a lot of working class |
| 2:01.5 | labor voters he spoke to, we're talking about benefits scroungers, they supported cuts. |
| 2:05.9 | They were the kind of people that probably voted for Thatcher. |
| 2:09.7 | And this becomes a bit of a problem, which Tony Ben, you know, the big figure on the left, |
| 2:15.7 | refuses to acknowledge. |
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