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🗓️ 11 October 2023
⏱️ 33 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the rock and roll politics podcast with me Steve Richards. |
0:20.5 | Thanks so much for tuning in. |
0:22.2 | For the second time this week, like last week, we're doing a second podcast as the Labour Conference draws to the close. |
0:30.0 | We've had Kier Starrman's speech. So this is the sequel to the earlier one this week. |
0:35.1 | So if you've just tuned into that, you need to hear the first one first. And if you've heard the first one, welcome to the earlier one this week. So if you've just tuned into that, you need to hear the first one first. |
0:39.1 | And if you've heard the first one, welcome to the second one. Gather together to make sense of it all. |
0:44.4 | Just a reminder, we're gathering together some of us at the Rock and Roll Politics Cooperative and others at King's Place in London on Monday, October the 23rd. And you can get tickets from the King's Place |
0:57.4 | website or via the blurb from this podcast. And then we gather together. We'll have had more |
1:05.0 | by-elections by then and there will have been other twists and turns, and we'll make sense of it. |
1:11.9 | We'll have a few drinks and a few laughs as well, so see as many of you as possible for that. |
1:19.1 | Yeah, so Keir Stama's speech, first of all, because where did we leave off in this box set, |
1:25.6 | Rachel Reeve's speech was where we were reflecting together last. |
1:32.1 | Yeah, I thought Kirstama's speech was in one respect the best I've heard from him, |
1:38.8 | in that he delivered a coherent argument. |
1:43.8 | And I liked the way he contextualized the scale of the challenge |
1:48.5 | because there have been times where members of his entourage of brief that here is Stama |
1:55.8 | being Tony Blair and you know it's not, as we've reflected many times here. |
2:03.8 | And I like the way he summed up the scale of the challenge by contextualising the three times |
2:09.6 | when Labour have won from opposition, 45, 64 and 97. |
2:14.5 | And he said that the scale of the challenges combine all three that those Labor governments |
2:20.6 | faced. And he's right. And I'm reassured that he's not wholly in the sort of mindset if we just |
2:29.5 | say what Tony Blair and Gordon Brown said in the buildup to 97, we're through. |
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