Not only did I not want a divorce, not only did my vows mean something to me, but I knew that this wasn't going to be good for our family or for our children. I just knew that in my heart intuitively. And so I decided to stand it for my marriage. I decided to fight the lawsuit and to fight for my marriage. Hi everybody and welcome to the Kiley Kriswold Managing editor at The Federalist. Please like and subscribe wherever you get your podcast so you never miss an episode. Leave us a five-star review. Even better yet, if you're just listening to the show, go check out the full video version on my personal YouTube channel or the Federalist channel on Rumble. And then, of course, like and subscribe there too. If you'd like to

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Today, I am so excited to be joined by Beverly Willett. Beverly is a retired New York City lawyer.

She's also the author of Disassembly Required. And she is a frequent contributor

to the Federalist. And I'm so honored that she is here today to talk with me about such

an important topic, which is divorce and specifically to talk about spouses who are divorced

against their will. So Beverly, welcome to the Kylie cast. Thank you. Good morning. It's great to be here. So great to have you. I always get to chat with you over email, but we've never gotten to talk face to face like this. So very fun to have you on the show today. Why don't we start for listeners who maybe haven't read any of your work or aren't familiar with you? Can you just tell us a little bit more about who you are,

where you come from, and how you got into the work you do? Okay, well, I grew up in Maryland,

and after law school, I went to New York City and started practicing law, met my ex-husband,

like, right away, we fell in love, got married, had two children.

I became a stay-at-home mom at some point because just the lifestyle of two lawyers

working in New York with kids just didn't work. So I became a stay-at-home mom, yes.

And then literally we celebrated our 20th anniversary. I thought that things

were just, you know, I mean, all marriages have troubles. I mean, that's, that's, that's, I just,

I just read a wonderful book by a woman named Ida Gores who wrote back in the 50s and 60s and 70s

in Germany on marriage.

And she said, you know, this for better and worse,

you know, it's already built into the marriage valve.

So it's not like people come and say later,

well, we've got problems.

She's like, those problems are already built into the marriage.

And I thought that was just so perceptive.

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