The Kristi Noem Show Is Cancelled
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🗓️ 11 March 2026
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Summary
The New Yorker staff writer Jonathan Blitzer joins Tyler Foggatt to discuss Kristi Noem’s removal from her post as Secretary of Homeland Security. They talk about the lead-up to her firing—which included accusations of fiscal mismanagement and self-promotion—and her controversial tenure as the head of one of the largest and most powerful departments during Donald Trump’s second Presidential term. They also explore the history and evolution of the Department of Homeland Security and how its founding in the wake of the September 11th attacks laid the groundwork for the sweeping—and, according to some legal experts, unconstitutional—powers it wields today.Â
This week’s reading:Â
- “Kristi Noem’s Fireable Offenses,” by Jonathan Blitzer
- “How Donald Trump’s Iran War Is Destabilizing the Gulf,” by Isaac Chotiner
- “The Zombie Regulator,” by E. Tammy Kim
- “What the Selection of Iran’s New Leader Might Mean for the War," by Robin Wright
- “The G.O.P.’s Latest Voter-Suppression Plan,” by Sue HalpernÂ
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, John. |
| 0:07.0 | Hi, how are you? |
| 0:08.0 | Good. Thanks so much for being here. |
| 0:10.0 | Thanks for having me. |
| 0:11.0 | So in your recent piece about the firing of DHS Secretary Christy Noam, you wrote that |
| 0:17.0 | Nome will be remembered as the most incompetent secretary in the department's history. |
| 0:21.7 | Now, I don't really want to make a case for Nome's competence, but I do wonder how we're |
| 0:28.0 | supposed to reconcile this idea of Nome being incompetent with the fact that the Trump |
| 0:33.1 | administration has deported so many people. Like, was she incompetent yet effective? |
| 0:39.6 | That's an interesting question. |
| 0:40.8 | I think her incompetence is just evidenced by how she handled herself in the job. |
| 0:47.9 | I mean, she trivialized much of the department's work. |
| 0:52.3 | I actually think she succeeded where a lot of progressive activists |
| 0:54.6 | have failed over the years, |
| 0:55.8 | which is almost by instantly delegitimizing |
| 0:58.5 | so much of what the department does. |
| 1:00.7 | You know, she dressed up in different outfits |
| 1:03.3 | at different moments. |
| 1:04.5 | She fumbled when it was time |
| 1:06.1 | to account for herself before Congress. |
| 1:08.4 | And that's to say nothing |
| 1:09.2 | of the substantive things |
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