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I'm Pasha Eaton.

And I have no idea what we're talking about today.

But don't worry because I'm going to tell you.

I just get to sit back and listen to a story that you've been researching. It's such a pleasure. Well, this one was a pretty wild ride, and there's so much more to this story. It was one of those things where, like, I came across a headline, kind of fouled it away, didn't find the right voices, and then got a call, and was like, oh, okay, we should, we should do this. Okay.

Can you tell me, like, the category of crime that we're talking about today?

Female con artist.

Oh, my favorite.

Yeah.

So, I mean, she has caused a lot of destruction that we'll get into, but part of my motivation

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