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THE KLONDIKE QUEEN Shaaw Tláa (Kate Carmack)

What'sHerName

Dr. Katie Nelson and Olivia Meikle

Society & Culture, Documentary, History

4.8538 Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

On a day like any other in 1896, Shaaw Tláa was washing dishes in a Yukon creek. But something shiny caught her eye... and the Klondike Gold Rush began. It's an insane chapter of world history: 100,000 ill-prepared dreamers from all over the world trekked into the subarctic. But what would become of the indigenous woman who started it all? Shaaw Tláa, known to the world as Kate Carmack, was suddenly one the richest people in the world, and she was married to a man called Lying George... Join Katie on location at Klondike Gold Rush National Historical Park for this larger-than-life story of gold, greed, and destiny. _______________ Become a Patron to help make more episodes happen, and to get episodes ad-free! Or join our next What'sHerName TOUR for a great women's history adventure! Want to lean more about Shaaw Tlaa? We've got you covered: Read Wealth Woman by Deb Vanasse Learn more about Klondike Gold Rush National Historical Park in Alaska and in Seattle Read about more Women of the Gold Rush Visit the US Postal Museum exhibit Stories from the Gold Rush Read the delightful 1897 Klondike: A Manual for Goldseekers Music featured in this episode: "Gold Rush" and "Five Card Shuffle" by Kevin MacLeod; "Roundup in the Prairie" by Aaron Kenny; "A Ghost Town" by Quincas Moreira; "Over the Mountain" and "Inconsciousness" by Mini Vandals; "The Quiet Aftermath" by Sir Cubworth; "Horses and Trains" by Jesse Gallagher; historical recordings of the US Marine Band; "Honky Tonkin'" by Doug Maxwell; "Through and Through" by Amulets. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This episode was sponsored by the Women's History Initiative at the Utah Historical Society,

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deepening our collective understanding and appreciation of the many roles women play in history.

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And by our patrons, Kim Hockinson, Bree Smith, Robin Brown, Cornelia Weiss, Heather Juistin, Janelleyskannon,

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0:47.1

Hi, Olivia. Hi, Katie. Today, we're going to join the Stampeeters in the Klondike Gold Rush.

0:55.7

Ooh.

0:56.7

A massive international event whose impact can hardly be overstated in modern history.

1:04.7

Ooh!

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In the late 1800s, the Klondike was the last great frontier in the Yukon, Canada, very near the Arctic Circle, inhabited by a group of less than 100 tag-ish people living in two clans.

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Until August 17, 1896, gold was found. Oh, poor them. An insane amount of gold. It was found by a

1:39.1

fascinating character, a prospector known as lying George. Again, why do prospectors always have the best

1:49.5

nicknames? Yes, so we get another episode full of amazing nicknames. Wow. Lying George would tell

1:58.3

lots of different versions of his gold strike story before his life was

2:03.1

through. And rumor had it that none of his versions were true. And he certainly staked the first

2:12.5

claim. Then he sent word to all the other prospectors up there in the far north,

2:18.4

triggering the most epic gold rush stampede of them all.

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Into the frozen north.

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Years later, as she settled into old age,

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