Welcome to the global phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, STS Nation?

Welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor,

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night in and night out um it is a fitting way to start the friday uh we were having

audio issues uh it is a week that has felt like seven months um our fisher price equipment

continues to uh exceed all expectations.

COE, is there a reason that I'm out of focus?

Hang on, everybody.

COE, I'm bringing you in here.

Is there a reason that I'm going in and out of focus now,

on top of the fact that the voiceover guy says my name incorrectly for my own show.

But do you know of any reason I'd be going in and out of focus, COE?

Hi, I'm on the phone with Space Coast.

Yeah, if you can just stand up and with your index finger, tap the top of the camera,

it'll do a quick soft auto focus and you'll be fine.

Um, soft auto focus and you'll be fine. It's still going in and out.

Anyway, I just wanted everyone.

Production and action here.

I wanted everybody to feel a part of my pain.

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