Due to the graphic nature of this episode, listener discretion is advised.

This episode includes discussions of gun violence and murder.

Consider this one deciding how and when you'll listen.

In 1985, Vera and Gerald Woodman were fatally shot in their apartment garage.

Leading up to their deaths, the couple was locked in a battle with their two sons,

Neil and Stewart, over the family business. It got so ugly that by the end of it,

the brothers didn't really seem to consider Vera and Gerald their parents anymore.

They were competition. And their dad always taught them that when it came to business,

competition should be eliminated. So Neil and Stewart hired two hitmen,

also brothers to do their dirty work.

These brothers were even colder and more violent than Neil and Stewart,

but like the younger Woodmans, they also saw murder as a business decision.

And business was booming. But when all said and done, we wonder,

when it comes to family, is it possible to keep emotion out of our decisions?

Will it ever be just about business?

Hi listeners, it's Greg. You're listening to serial killers, a Spotify original from

podcast. I'm here with my co-host, Vanessa. Hey everyone, this is the second episode in our

new special series, serial killers hitmen. These episodes explore the twisted world of contract

homicide, both the people who kill and those who hire them. This time we're continuing our

story about a pair of brothers in Los Angeles, who took a hit out on their own parents.

Today we'll see how the authorities piece the drama together, and of course we'll get to know

the men hired for the actual murder. We've got all that and more coming up. Stay with us.

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