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And I will tell you that the fact that they are called terrorists is because that is what they do.

I was completely terrorized.

Yeah. I was completely terrorized. Welcome to The Knife. I'm Hannah Smith.

I'm Pasha Eaton.

This week we speak with a woman that we're calling Susan. We are not using her real name or identifying her location because she asked us not to. And after hearing her story, we understand why. Sometimes one moment can shift so much in a person's life. For Susan, that moment came unexpectedly when a routine day at the

office ended with her fearing for her life. And she's never told her story before now. Let's get into the

interview. Susan, thank you so much for joining us on the podcast. Thanks. It's interesting to be here.

How are you feeling about it?

I feel nervous. I think this is something that needs to happen, and it feels like this big secret that I've been holding.

I don't know that I've really mentally understood how heavy it's been, but now that I've agreed to do this, I can really feel

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