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🗓️ 16 November 2023
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0:00.0 | The two attorneys, West Clark and Mark Downton, were feeling pretty good. |
0:06.0 | They just gotten a 15-year-old kid at a solitary confinement, and that felt like a big |
0:11.0 | victory against Judge Davenport. |
0:13.0 | They'd also decided to team up for real, form a firm of their own called Doubten Clark. |
0:18.8 | It had no real office, no business cards, but it did have one very specific goal. |
0:24.0 | The goal was to get out. Here's Mark. |
0:27.0 | To not be juvenile court lawyers anymore, because it was too much time for too little money. |
0:33.0 | And they needed the money. |
0:35.0 | While the work of juvenile court was steady, the pay was low as far as attorneys go. |
0:40.0 | Court-appointed cases were capped at 50 bucks an hour. |
0:43.4 | West had law school loans and was still living at his mother-in-law's house. |
0:47.8 | Mark was a little more flush, thanks to a side gig doing document review for higher paid lawyers, but he also had a kid in mortgages for his house and office. |
0:58.0 | So they started a private practice that would take civil cases, personal injury, business disputes. |
1:04.8 | They knew it would take some time to really get established, |
1:08.0 | but they had faith. |
1:09.6 | They both remember an early case West brought in from adult court that seemed promising. |
1:14.5 | It was a client of mine who his foot was injured during his jail intake process. |
1:22.3 | He ended up having the foot amputated. |
1:24.6 | So we filed this lawsuit for like millions of dollars and it turned out fairly quickly we learned |
1:31.0 | that like his leg was supposed to be cut off before he ever went into jail. |
1:35.9 | So that was our first one that we thought were going to be millionaires. |
1:39.3 | Instead, they were out of pocket about 400 bucks for the filing fees, |
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