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The Kids of Rutherford County - Ep. 2: What the Hell Are You People Doing?

Serial

Serial Productions & The New York Times

True Crime, News, Society & Culture

4.581.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

A young lawyer named Wes Clark can’t get the Rutherford County juvenile court to let his clients out of detention — even when the law says they shouldn’t have been held in the first place. He’s frustrated and demoralized, until he makes a friend. From Serial Productions and The New York Times in partnership with ProPublica and Nashville Public Radio, “The Kids of Rutherford County” is reported and hosted by Meribah Knight, a Peabody-award winning reporter based in the South.

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In 2013, three years before the arrests at Habgut Elementary, when a bunch of kids were arrested and brought to juvenile detention for not stopping a fight, a guy named West Clark had just graduated law school. West was 25

0:15.7

years old, smart, ambitious, but he was also just coming out of a pretty wild past. On and

0:22.1

off since he was a teenager he'd been addicted to

0:24.5

OxyContin. A hopeless love of this shit is how he puts it. With that,

0:30.6

came West's rap sheet, a DUI, some drug charges.

0:36.0

So considering this, he knew the chances of getting a job at a Tony

0:39.6

White'sue law firm, were pretty close to zero. But he needed a job. That's when some lawyers he meant

0:45.7

recovery circles gave him a tip. There's always work in juvenile court.

0:51.0

They were like, hey, this is a place you can go and at least start out and learn the ropes because there was a need for lawyers to do that.

1:00.0

Court appointed juvenile cases don't pay well, and lawyers have told me that juvenile court lacks the prestige of adult criminal court.

1:08.0

One lawyer harshly described it as the bottom rung of the legal practice. But for Wes, you know, it was something to do

1:16.8

which was much better than nothing to do. At the time, Wes was living in Rutherford County,

1:22.0

Tennessee.

1:23.2

And so I just went down to the juvenile court

1:26.4

and observed a couple of days and then

1:30.4

asked to be put on the list to take appointments.

1:35.0

And it was in January of 2014 that I got my first juvenile court appointment.

1:51.0

Wes's first case was for a girl who was being held in detention on a misdemeanor called reckless burning. The crime Wes had never heard of. The girl was accused of setting a small

1:55.3

fire in a neighbor's barn. So police had picked her up the day before and taken her to

2:00.0

juvy, where she spent the night in a cell waiting for her hearing.

2:04.0

West went down to the detention center to meet with her.

2:07.0

I remember just like physically how small she was, like, kind of struck me, like, wow wow this is a really little kid you know the girl was 12

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