Welcome to the Breakpoint podcast. I'm John Stone Street.

You know, our culture proclaims a narrative that what kids need are parents, not moms and dads.

Movies, television shows, music, public policies, they all call us to a new way of organizing the family,

one that prioritizes adult desires, wishes,

and needs over kids. And they say over and over and over, and this is the consistent myth of

the sexual revolution, that the kids will be fine, but the kids aren't fine. Katie Faust has been

on a campaign for years now to tell the stories of those unheard voices in our culture.

Children, conceived by in vitro fertilization, have a story.

Katie's telling it.

Kids adopted into loving families have a story that our culture often does not hear.

Katie tells it. Those who are raised in same-sex households have stories, and Katie is sharing

those stories. Her new book is called Them Before Us, and the title says it all, that we need to be

the sort of culture that places the needs of children over and above the desires of adults.

Today on the Breakpoint podcast, we'll hear a conversation that Katie had on the upstream

podcast with Shane Morris.

She discusses her new book, Them Before Us.

You can visit breakpoint.org, that's breakpoint.org, and for any gift this month

to the Ministry of the Colson Center, we'll send you a copy of Katie's terrific book,

Them Before Us. Here's Katie Faust on the Upstream podcast with Shane Morris.

Welcome to Upstream. I'm Shane Morris. Now, I don't like picking on beloved movies. I really

don't, but this classic movie deserves picking on. In fact, it makes me mad every single

time I watch it. In one of his most famous roles, Robin Williams plays Mrs. Doubtfire, a plucky

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