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Hello and welcome to the Bachelor Podcast. I'm Kay Ricksity.

Thank you, your Bachelor. And I am Jared Freed.

And we have a lot to talk about that is happening, Bachelor Nation, this week. But first, make

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Bachelor Breakdowns, giving you all the tea, all the gossip that's happening throughout

the week in Bachelor Nation. But we have to talk about Katie and John slash Blake and

then also Tasha and Zach breaking up. Were you guys shocked?

I'm never shocked when it comes to a Bachelor or Bachelor at breaking up within a year or

two of the season. Imagine dating someone and you don't even know how they act with their

phone. You commit to an engagement before everyone on a first date sits there with their

phone in their pocket and never looks at it. And it's like, that's not you. You are, you

know, when you, it's like all our phones are our children. And before you meet the children,

you really don't know what type of father or mother we are. And it's true. And it's like

the Bachelor, the whole season is no phones. And it's why this show is in kind of Cinderella.

And it's why kind of like the show Love is Blind was a little bit more closer to real

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