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No jumper, coolest podcast on the world today. I'm in here with a man, Khalil, the brains

behind wicked thoughts. I feel like every time I wear your shit, I end up having to explain

who you are or who the brand is to someone. So that's a good and never-reason right there.

First of all, just so I can be watching this interview. I never have to explain it to you.

Honestly, because of the whole time even coming up myself, I never wanted to come

to be the main person. I just wanted to close the speak for themselves.

And they do. The same response you'd be getting is the same response I'd be getting because

I wear this shit every day. Sometimes think it's hitting me up, where'd you get that jacket?

And I'd be like, oh, the honey made it. Just because it's like, I want to see people

reaction to it fairly.

But there's two very different types of brands these days where you have brands where

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