We've gotten immigration messed up for 45 years.

We're doing it at a time that America is celebrating a huge anniversary.

We're going to celebrate that forever.

And so this show is always going to be talking about the beauty of America and the future of America. Welcome to the new Kevin Roberts Show.

And if you're a viewer or listener of our program in the past, you probably notice a couple of changes.

For instance, I'm not Kevin Roberts.

See, this isn't just your typical podcast about policy.

No, it's actually about a conversation about what this country is all about and what our values have always been and what need to be

if we're going to succeed. And so we've mixed things up a bit. It's Dr. Kevin Roberts and me,

Larry O'Connor. And Dr. Roberts, thanks for including me in this little conversation every week.

You know, we're going to have some fun with this new format, Larry, and thanks for including me in this little conversation every week.

You know, we're going to have some fun with this new format. Larry, and thanks for being part of it. But when my colleagues told me that Larry O'Connor, who, all kidding aside, is my favorite radio host, you know, that I listen to your show coming in each morning. Your radio dials broken, isn't it? You can't change the channel. That one, that you were not only available to do this, but willing to do it, because I didn't want this just to be a lecture, even though we had a lot of great guests, that you would be someone who would also push me to be precise or more precise about some of the topics we want to cover. So thank you. Well, I don't plan on cross-examining you, but I do. Oh, good. As a consumer of podcast conversation content, I like it when the interviewer really pushes the person and

sort of challenges some of the premises that you put forth. So I'm not going to, you know,

Perry Mason you, but I'm hoping to actually get more out of these ideas, because I think I'm asking questions that the listener might be asking. And that's the feedback we got about the show, which is that the content's good. We would love to be able to ask some questions. We would love to go a little bit deeper into some of these questions. And as we're reprising this show, Larry, we're doing it at a time that America is celebrating a huge anniversary. We're going to celebrate

that forever. And so this show's always going to be talking about the beauty of America and

the future of America. Well, that's a good thing because our very first episode, our first

topic today is about the American dream, the golden age. Some people are calling it these days.

You want to jump right into it? Absolutely.

Let's go. Well, let's start with the idea of the premise. What is the American dream? Because I hear a lot of

different people say a lot of different things about what the American dream is. Some people make it

sound almost like a socialist dream. What is the American dream? Yes, the American dream is not what

a certain candidate for mayor in New York City defines it to be.

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