Welcome to You Can't Make This Up, a companion podcast from Netflix.

I'm Ray Vada and I'm hosting this episode.

Every other week on You Can't Make This Up,

we feature a new interviewer discussing a different Netflix original series or film with special guests.

What do the films in series have in common?

They're all surprisingly true.

This week, we're revisiting the hit docu series The Keepers.

It's been a year since it came out and we still can't stop talking about it.

The Keepers is a seven-part docu series that investigates the unsolved murder of Sister Kathy

Cessnick, a nun and Catholic high school teacher in Baltimore.

In November 1969, Sister Kathy went missing and her body wasn't found for two months.

It wasn't until recently that former students started gathering together online

to try and unravel the truth of what happened at their school,

including the trauma the school's chaplain was inflicting upon young women and them. Gene Wainer, one of the survivors of this story joins Director Ryan White and Kelly McEvers of

NPR's Embedded. We highly recommend you watch The Keepers before listening to

this episode. Consider this your spoiler alert. Now without further ado here's Kelly McEvers with Jean and

Ryan.

Welcome to both of you. I'm so glad to get a chance to talk to you. And I kind of just want to like, I just want you to sort of start at the beginning.

Whenever, you know, when you watch a series like this, you have so many questions and mine is just like how did it all start?

It was a personal connection.

So my mom is from Baltimore, big Catholic family, and my aunt was Sister Kathy's student at Archbishop Keoe High School and she was actually in

Jean's class. They were the same age. So I think about four years ago now, Jean for the first time in an article by Tom Nugent, who's that journalist who appears throughout the series, put her name on Jane Doe for the first time.

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