It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here?

Fiasco is a history podcast for the co-creators of Slow Burn.

In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examine an unmistakable turning point in American politics,

the 2000 election, which resulted in a high-stakes stalemate, ended with one of the most controversial rulings in Supreme Court history.

So if you're trying to make sense at the present moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore. Listen on the IHeart

Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hi, and welcome back to the

Carol Markowitz Show on IHeartRadio. The Carol Markowitz Show now airs Wednesdays and Fridays.

So you get this non-political podcast, The Carol Markowitz Show,

where I interview political people about non-political topics on Wednesday and Friday.

And then you get normally the political podcast I co-host with Mary Catherine Ham every Tuesday and Thursday.

The only day you don't get me is Monday. A question that I've been asked more than once now is this.

Hi, Carol, I love your monologues. I have two kids, 16 and 14. They're good kids, but rebelling against

what we've been teaching them at home.

We're still hopeful that our values will translate as they get older, but sometimes it seems

like they are challenging us just for the sake of it. How do you know your children won't rebel

from what you teach them? Well, I definitely don't know that, and I imagine they will rebel at various points in their lives.

They already do sometimes.

My 14-year-old challenges things I say often.

It's actually worse for me when she doesn't challenge what I say, but I can tell she disagrees.

It's far better to have the lines of communication open.

I guess the thing with kids is that, of course, they're going to go on their own path,

and even the things they might want for themselves could not turn out as planned.

...