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My guest today is Alana Newhouse, editor-in-chief of Tablet, which she founded in 2009.

Hi, Alana, so nice to have you on.

Hi, Carol. So that was news to me that you founded Tablet. I don't know why, but what made

you want to start a magazine? Well, if you think back, Tablet was founded 18 years ago.

And if you think back to 2008-2009, we all thought that Internet was going to be a

really fun, cool place of great discourse. Wrong. I was really excited about the possibility

for that the Internet had to give me an audience of people who wanted an in-depth high-brow, high-level engagement with Jewish identity and Jewish culture.

A lot of the pieces were going to be long. Some pieces were going to be scholarly.

They were going to be in depth. I wasn't imagining a huge audience. I was imagining a very specific

small audience, but the internet would allow that audience to be found not just in New York,

but globally.

So I started to have it with that in mind. What I then didn't realize was that all of journalism was coming apart.

So that it was a strange thing.

And in the first few years, it was almost like it was almost unspoken that we started to do more reportage and more news-based pieces, in part because we intuited these soft spots in what was then the only media there was, which we now call legacy media or mainstream

media. And then as we started to fill those gaps, we started to realize that it wasn't just

that there were one or two areas of weakness, but actually that the whole structure of American public opinion and

journalism was decaying. And so we ended up filling more and more spots, including starting

to cover the world outside of narrowly Jewish life or Jewish. And so that's kind of how we got here.

Yeah, because I, you know, I definitely think of you as a primarily, and by you, I mean tablet,

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